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Post by faneu on Jan 23, 2019 11:16:22 GMT -8
Recently watched "Hum Tumhare Hain Sanam" and it's not that bad. There are some obvious continuity issues because it took like 6 years to shoot it, plot has some forced elements etc. but SRK gives a good performance and he has good chemistry with Madhuri. Salman Khan is a bit OTT but ok.
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Post by clochette on Jan 23, 2019 14:20:07 GMT -8
DilSe, PhirBhiDilHaiHindustani, Asoka, Paheli, Ra.One, Fan, JabHarryMetSejal.
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Post by faneu on Jan 23, 2019 14:43:50 GMT -8
DilSe, PhirBhiDilHaiHindustani, Asoka, Paheli, Ra.One, Fan, JabHarryMetSejal. Dil se is in no way overrated, maybe back in 1998 but like Swades it has gotten lots of praise and is usually seen as one of SRK's best (I think it's ok, not one of my favourites). Fair point on the rest
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Post by agantuk on Jan 23, 2019 19:23:04 GMT -8
Good you bring up HTHS - I loved the film when it was released and it indeed is one of SRK's best performances. The horse scene in particular stands out. Very underrated.
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Post by sikander on Jan 23, 2019 20:13:57 GMT -8
Raju ban Gaya gentleman Yes boss Badshah
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Post by faneu on Jan 23, 2019 20:29:20 GMT -8
I would say Chalte Chalte is underrated too..in some ways similiar story to HTHS but the love story is fleshed out more so I felt more invested. It's definitely SRK & Rani's best movie together (where she is the female lead, Paheli and KANK were underwhelming for me).
Certainly a safe movie back then, after PDHH and Asoka flopped but SRK at his romantic hero peak just has so much charm.
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Post by karan on Jan 24, 2019 0:05:24 GMT -8
KANK, FAN.
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Post by ujjwala on Jan 24, 2019 0:27:17 GMT -8
If Dil Se is not under-rated (it was a huge flop, one of tue biggest that year, I saw it with not more than 20 people in the Cinemas), may be explain the context or what would qualify as under-rated?
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Post by faneu on Jan 24, 2019 1:07:20 GMT -8
If Dil Se is not under-rated (it was a huge flop, one of tue biggest that year, I saw it with not more than 20 people in the Cinemas), may be explain the context or what would qualify as under-rated? Both Dil Se and Swades flopped but they have gotten so much appreciation after that that they really can't be called underrated. Most people seem to put them in their Top 10 SRK movies at least. I would say underrated are those lesser known SRK movies that don't get much love like HTHS (which I mentioned) or Ram Jaane or flops that were never really appreciated even later on liek Asoka.
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Post by clochette on Jan 24, 2019 1:46:12 GMT -8
Oh, I see...so if the point is current appreciation, I would also join HTHS and RamJaane and CC ... and in a certain sense RBGG, Josh, Chaahat and Koyla, too (well, it is difficult to judge because for some, Koyla has become a cult-movie and Chaahat almost isn't mentioned at all). From this decade, I would concentrate on ShahRukh's experiments with Ra.One, Fan and Zero as utterly under-rated (although Fan was mostly praised by critics, it still got a negative tendency). I also think that Anjaam was a bold decision that wasn't/isn't appreciated.
But actually, that is not "most"...I always have difficulties with rating...
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Post by ujjwala on Jan 24, 2019 2:18:08 GMT -8
I thought SRK was great in Chaahat. He and Anupam really seemed like a good Father-Son onscreen pair. But the rest if the cast was BAD that includes Pooja, Ramya and Naseer. I don't know what happened to them in this movie. Pooja was brilliant in Daddy and Zakhm. Ramya is awesome in some south Indian films I saw her in. And well Naseer is Naseer. These 3 really pulled the movie down plus their characters were rubbish.
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Post by ujjwala on Jan 24, 2019 2:20:34 GMT -8
Both Dil Se and Swades flopped but they have gotten so much appreciation after that that they really can't be called underrated. Ok so its current perception. That clarifies things By the way Ram Jaane was actually a hit. It came just after DDLJ and beat AK's Akele Hum Akele Tum.
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Post by clochette on Jan 24, 2019 3:31:23 GMT -8
I thought SRK was great in Chaahat. He and Anupam really seemed like a good Father-Son onscreen pair. But the rest if the cast was BAD that includes Pooja, Ramya and Naseer. I don't know what happened to them in this movie. Pooja was brilliant in Daddy and Zakhm. Ramya is awesome in some south Indian films I saw her in. And well Naseer is Naseer. These 3 really pulled the movie down plus their characters were rubbish. That's why I wrote "in a certain sense" because there are certain aspects that are under-rated.
I know that RamJaane was a hit (at that time) but it seems to me that not many of those who praise ShahRukh for past movies remember RamJaane.
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Post by karan on Jan 24, 2019 7:35:48 GMT -8
Films like Swades, Dil Se and Kabhi Haa Kabhi Naa have gained a cult following but I imagine a large part of the audience hasn't seen them, especially if their tv viewership figures are anything to go by.
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Post by faneu on Jan 24, 2019 10:18:00 GMT -8
I thought SRK was great in Chaahat. He and Anupam really seemed like a good Father-Son onscreen pair. But the rest if the cast was BAD that includes Pooja, Ramya and Naseer. I don't know what happened to them in this movie. Pooja was brilliant in Daddy and Zakhm. Ramya is awesome in some south Indian films I saw her in. And well Naseer is Naseer. These 3 really pulled the movie down plus their characters were rubbish. That's why I wrote "in a certain sense" because there are certain aspects that are under-rated.
I know that RamJaane was a hit (at that time) but it seems to me that not many of those who praise ShahRukh for past movies remember RamJaane.
Exactly, Ram Jaane may have been a success back when it was released but unlike Dil Se & co. it's never remembered. It's more underrated despite being a hit and them being flops
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Post by adi on Jan 24, 2019 11:05:47 GMT -8
If we are talking about MOST under-ratef. I can think of only two movies which were brilliant but came too earlier for audience understanding.
Asoka (if it came out right after 9/11, audience would have understood the message better that wars are not good for anyone).
Dil se (it also came too early as the suicide attacks were not that popular that time)
Both the movies were highly content driven with great performances which would have been appreciated much more if released in recent times.
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Post by ujjwala on Jan 24, 2019 12:51:41 GMT -8
it was released but unlike Dil Se & co. it's never remembered. It's more underrated despite being a hit and them being flops The problem with Ram Jaane is that the second lead, the one the leading lady chooses over SRK is Vivek Mushran. While he on his own did a decent job, he just does not have the screen presence to match SRK. Its just such a mismatch, that the film is forgotten. Who here likes Zamaana Deewana. I love that movie for some reason. I have a soft spot for Guddu too.
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Post by SRKFanatic on Jan 24, 2019 12:54:09 GMT -8
Asoka and Paheli. Great movies.
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Post by clochette on Jan 24, 2019 13:17:46 GMT -8
adi...I second your opinion. ujjwala...here you have one with the same liking for the two movies
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Post by faneu on Jan 24, 2019 14:23:51 GMT -8
it was released but unlike Dil Se & co. it's never remembered. It's more underrated despite being a hit and them being flops The problem with Ram Jaane is that the second lead, the one the leading lady chooses over SRK is Vivek Mushran. While he on his own did a decent job, he just does not have the screen presence to match SRK. Its just such a mismatch, that the film is forgotten. Who here likes Zamaana Deewana. I love that movie for some reason. I have a soft spot for Guddu too. Probably and I think people were getting tired of negative roles from SRK anyway, Anjaam flopped too a year before that. Zamaana Deewana is fun but I really dislike Guddu..the story was really stupid.
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Post by DonGirl on Jan 25, 2019 0:16:38 GMT -8
I loved Raees. It was smart, funny, good music, solid support cast and nobody went to Mars. It deserved more love at the BO. It got lost in all the negativity surrounding Harry Sejal and Zero. SRK was fantastic in the movie.
Ammijaan kehti thi... 🔥 *ded*
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Post by faneu on Jan 25, 2019 0:25:19 GMT -8
I loved Raees. It was smart, funny, good music, solid support cast and nobody went to Mars. It deserved more love at the BO. It got lost in all the negativity surrounding Harry Sejal and Zero. SRK was fantastic in the movie. Ammijaan kehti thi... 🔥 *ded*Agree completely, I'm not sure why it wasn't a bigger hit (maybe the clash? unappealing topic for indians?). SRK gave a great performance, the story was exciting and the supporting cast (especially Nawazuddin Siddiqui) really good. I often see many saying that SRK has just made mindless masala or romance bs in these past few years but Raees and Fan show otherwise. They get kind of lost in the badly received movies he made which is a shame.
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Post by sikander on Jan 25, 2019 7:26:02 GMT -8
I loved Raees. It was smart, funny, good music, solid support cast and nobody went to Mars. It deserved more love at the BO. It got lost in all the negativity surrounding Harry Sejal and Zero. SRK was fantastic in the movie. Ammijaan kehti thi... 🔥 *ded*Agree completely, I'm not sure why it wasn't a bigger hit (maybe the clash? unappealing topic for indians?). SRK gave a great performance, the story was exciting and the supporting cast (especially Nawazuddin Siddiqui) really good. I often see many saying that SRK has just made mindless masala or romance bs in these past few years but Raees and Fan show otherwise. They get kind of lost in the badly received movies he made which is a shame.  Totally agree, Raees is one of srk's best performance and one of the best as a gangster movie. It was still ok kind of collection since there are many thing gone against it like clash non holiday delayed, postponement production value and most important is it was dark and gangster movie which family audience prefer to stay away. No movie from Bollywood based on gangster is universally hit right from ankush, parinda. Satya, vastav company to outim lokhandwala even bigb' agneepath was also not worked at bo There may be some minor hit like outim and HR's agneepath but former is economically hit while later was not entirely dark movie, it was more toward masala movie. These are not regular action masala movie which don't appeal to universal audiences. Usually these kind of movies works in Mumbai only.
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Post by sikander on Jan 25, 2019 7:51:51 GMT -8
it was released but unlike Dil Se & co. it's never remembered. It's more underrated despite being a hit and them being flops The problem with Ram Jaane is that the second lead, the one the leading lady chooses over SRK is Vivek Mushran. While he on his own did a decent job, he just does not have the screen presence to match SRK. Its just such a mismatch, that the film is forgotten. Who here likes Zamaana Deewana. I love that movie for some reason. I have a soft spot for Guddu too. Agree with ramjaane. Vivek mushran was weakest character in that movie. Haven't watched guddu Watched zamana deewana. Except srk and songs it was plain boring. Story was old half of the people were coming out from theatre. I saw many black ticket seller offering ticket on lower ticket rate that actual ticket price outside Alankar cinema Mumbai that too on second Sunday. But songs were quite popular especially title track and tuzse puchu ek sawal.
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Post by ujjwala on Jan 25, 2019 13:56:54 GMT -8
Watched zamana deewana. Except srk and songs it was plain boring. Story was old half of the people were coming out from theatre. I saw many black ticket seller offering ticket on lower ticket rate that actual ticket price outside Alankar cinema Mumbai that too on second Sunday. Zamaana Deewana is the most 80s Bollywood film SRK has done. That plot is so 80s which is not the best decade for Bollywood in general. However there is something about the 80s I personally enjoy and I find those elements in ZD and I really enjoy this movie. Guddu was my first film in the Cinemas. SRK has 7 releases in 1995, Guddu and ODYHI even released on the same day. Out of these Karan Arjun and DDLJ were big hits and Ram Jaane was an medium hit rest all flopped. Karan Arjun Zamaana Deewana Guddu Oh Darling! Yeh Hai India! Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge Ram Jaane Trimurti But songs were quite popular especially title track and tuzse puchu ek sawal. Yeah, they featured on Super Hit Muquabla. But my fav song is "Soch Liya Maine", really like Vinod Rathod's (where is he) voice and there is a longer than usual pause every time just before they sing "Soch Liya Maine".
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Post by ujjwala on Jan 25, 2019 14:02:37 GMT -8
About Raeese, SRK was great in that film but as a whole that film just did not click with me, I was bored. This is one character I am not going to be rooting for in anyway either. Half the time I did not even know if the wife knew about her husband's job.
But what bugged me the most was that they sold this movie of a big coming together of two brilliant actors - SRK and Nawaz. And there was nothing, there were no showdown scenes nothing. I kept waiting, waiting, waiting and nothing happened.
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Post by faneu on Jan 25, 2019 14:27:11 GMT -8
About Raeese, SRK was great in that film but as a whole that film just did not click with me, I was bored. This is one character I am not going to be rooting for in anyway either. Half the time I did not even know if the wife knew about her husband's job. But what bugged me the most was that they sold this movie of a big coming together of two brilliant actors - SRK and Nawaz. And there was nothing, there were no showdown scenes nothing. I kept waiting, waiting, waiting and nothing happened. I thought it was an exciting movie but yeah I think this is one of the reasons it wasn't so popular, Raees isn't a character the audience can root for. He is a clear anti hero. When you look at the popular movies of the last few years, it's obvious more heroic characters are needed. But I think unlike movies like JHMS, Zero etc. at least here it made sense that he wasn't a "good" guy. I definitely wanted more of a showdown between SRK and Nawaz's characters but they still shared some great scenes. The setting of the movie was also refreshing and overall I enjoy it more every time I watch it which can't be said for most other SRK movies in the past few years.
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Post by gangsta on Jan 28, 2019 8:23:34 GMT -8
I don't know if this qualifies at all, but my pick would be Baadshah. Sure, its a mish-mash of several Hollywood DVD's that Abbas-Mustan were probably gifted. But it is such goofy fun.
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Post by clochette on Jan 28, 2019 9:00:49 GMT -8
Yep, I agree, it was v e r y entertaining :-)
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Post by faneu on Jan 28, 2019 9:44:48 GMT -8
Yeah Baadshah was hilarious, SRK clearly had a lot of fun.
I think the female lead was a bit weak though
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