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Post by faneu on Dec 28, 2018 13:26:22 GMT -8
Isn't this the Simmba thread? I'm not the one who started to bring in SRK and Zero into this thread. But you are right its off topic
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Post by faneu on Dec 28, 2018 13:32:41 GMT -8
I really liked Ranveer as an actor. I think he is great. I found him not OTT in the trailer like all actors are in Rohit's movies. I like Ranbir as well, but he cant do commercial movies but Ranveer can do both. This is not my type of movie, so will watch later on DVD. But I am happy for Ranveer, really enjoyed his recent work. Comparison between him and SRK is laugh worthy. They are good 20 years apart and has nothing in common. What is the need to bring young guys down against SRK. They are getting popular and still far behind Khans. whether they get such status or not, its in future. I'm no fan of Rohit shetty movies but Ranveer is definitely a good actor. People here including me are a bit salty that this will be better reviwed and make more money than Zero, that's it
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Post by agantuk on Dec 29, 2018 10:25:00 GMT -8
Just saw a screen grab of this film with Ajay Devgn and Ranveer walking together. Ajay looks majestic - like a star should; Ranveer on the other hand could easily pass off as the character artist who plays an insignificant constable. Clearly I must be missing something about Ranveer, because he is below ordinary in screen presence.
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Post by tina on Dec 29, 2018 18:21:02 GMT -8
Just saw a screen grab of this film with Ajay Devgn and Ranveer walking together. Ajay looks majestic - like a star should; Ranveer on the other hand could easily pass off as the character artist who plays an insignificant constable. Clearly I must be missing something about Ranveer, because he is below ordinary in screen presence. You aren't missing anything. There's a desperation to turn Ranveer into a star but he isn't one. He's been hanging around for 7 or 8 years without anything much to show.
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Post by ujjwala on Dec 29, 2018 19:14:10 GMT -8
In the 90s, I could look at the poster and know if it will work. I used to be 90% right. Since mid-2000, the audience taste has changed and I can't get my head around what works and does not work anymore. We may not see anything in Ranveer, I see nothing in Ranbir, Varun and the works but the current audience loves them. But apparently the current audience does not have the patience to stick with an actor for years, everyone is flavor of the season / year. There is no mystery about the actors, they are always in your face, social media, print media, visual media, you name it. Films are not the only medium to watch an actor you like anymore, I mean add Netflix to you list too. There is soooooo much content out there, the attention span is very short.
The bottom line is if we don't understand why something works or otherwise, lets stop calling the audience stupid.
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Post by deltoro on Dec 29, 2018 22:53:51 GMT -8
Ranveer doesn't have screen presence, in my personal opinion. Shahid Kapoor's acting was absurdly overlooked in Padmaavat, despite the fact that he completely outclassed Ranveer. It should be telling that Ranveer doesn't have a hit without Priyanka, Deepika or Anushka. Rather. . . He didn't have a hit without that trio until now.
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Post by clochette on Dec 30, 2018 1:25:44 GMT -8
If one is a Ranveer Fan, this reaction to him and the movie must be a delight. So, as critics and audience seem to repeat 'history' (as in 2000 between ShahRukh and Hrithik)let them do...future will tell how the hype for Ranveer and the trashing of ShahRukh will go. (Honestly, I don't seek explanation in the audience but in those who try to take influence on the audience...there are still parts of the audience who could connect to Zero and can't connect to Simmba which is independent of opinion-manipulation).
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Post by mohan10 on Dec 30, 2018 4:51:57 GMT -8
So those who couldn't connect with Zero are manipulated ... I am having a de javu all over again i remember reading the same things on this forum from certain members when Dilwale and HNY released. There are always some evil organizations in dark rooms somewhere in India trying to get SRK ...
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Post by clochette on Dec 30, 2018 9:05:48 GMT -8
"So those who couldn't connect with Zero are manipulated ..." That is neither what I wrote nor what I meant.
You may find my allegations ridiculous, but since MyNameIsKhan each movie has faced controversies (and his personal life, too).
But it's okay...it's not the place to elaborate, it's still the Simmba thread...and I have nothing against Rohit and Ranveer getting success...I don't think that they have anything to do with whatever manipulation, they just did their work and get rewarded. Fine for them.
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Post by agantuk on Dec 30, 2018 9:11:21 GMT -8
This opened better than Zero overseas. I am speechless now.
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Post by mohan10 on Dec 30, 2018 9:46:25 GMT -8
This opened better than Zero overseas. I am speechless now. Are you serious? This is bad, Zero was playing in half empty halls here in Holland, never seen that before for any SRK release special this time of the year, didn’t check Simmba but i am sure it isn’t that much better in terms of tickets sells
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Post by tina on Dec 30, 2018 10:04:23 GMT -8
^Based on this, it's obvious Zero was a movie that people had no interest in to begin with. The dwarf thing was not something people want to see superstars as. They want them larger than life and beating people up and being heros.
Not only that, people don't care for romances anymore. Those are the types of movies you watch later on streaming. Even the younger actors are not doing them. SRK too needs to let it go.
It also had SRK/Anushka pair which just had a flop right before it. There was no excitement to see them again.
We also have to accept that the audience is getting younger and wants to see younger actors on screen. All the Khans are 50+.
All of this can be overcome if a movie is really well liked but Zero was not. Most SRK fans also just tolerated it or found things to like because they were searching for it, not because they immediately just loved the movie.
The only thing that really scares me is that I think SRK and Anand Rai seemed clueless about the lack of potential of this movie. A lot of the promotions they did are set to appear on TV this weekend instead of before the movie released. I'm guessing they believed the movie had legs so they would have those dance and music show promotions airing the second weekend when Simmba released. It's important to have awareness and a general idea of the box office potential of a movie which I don't think they had.
Anyway, that's over. Time to move on. Let's hope things go right with the Rakesh Sharma script. One thing I have to say is that i don't think it would be as easy to pull down by the critics the way Zero was due to it's patriotic theme.
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Post by sikander on Dec 30, 2018 10:46:47 GMT -8
Actually zero should have come when srk was driving force at box office especially in place of jthj it might have done huge at least in overseas
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Post by tina on Dec 30, 2018 11:02:14 GMT -8
^SRK still got a 20 crore opening day with intense negativity, a dwarf character, bad reviews, and bad WOM where people were cancelling their night show tickets. A rising younger actor padded with paid positive reviews in a big masala crap with chartbuster songs by Rohit Shetty got almost the same exact numbers.
If Zero had been genuinely liked by the public, it would have picked up through WOM on later days even more but the movie just didn't work for the audience. Even the few critics who liked it mentioned what a weird film it was. It's the kind of project that only works for a minority of the public.
SRK needs a universal subject that is easily acceptable by the general audience. VFX or no VFX, you need topics that appeal to everyone. A dwarf who runs away from his handicapped girlfriend and then somehow ends up in Bollywood and decides he needs his ex (who now has his child) and for that, he has to go to Mars... come on, how ridiculous it is.
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Post by DonGirl on Dec 30, 2018 11:38:10 GMT -8
SRK needs a universal subject that is easily acceptable by the general audience. VFX or no VFX, you need topics that appeal to everyone. A dwarf who runs away from his handicapped girlfriend and then somehow ends up in Bollywood and decides he needs his ex (who now has his child) and for that, he has to go to Mars... come on, how ridiculous it is. lol Gotta admit, SRK has balls to follow Hary and Sejal up with Zero. It was a risk which didn’t pay off, unfortunately.
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Post by faneu on Dec 30, 2018 13:04:56 GMT -8
Just saw a screen grab of this film with Ajay Devgn and Ranveer walking together. Ajay looks majestic - like a star should; Ranveer on the other hand could easily pass off as the character artist who plays an insignificant constable. Clearly I must be missing something about Ranveer, because he is below ordinary in screen presence. You aren't missing anything. There's a desperation to turn Ranveer into a star but he isn't one. He's been hanging around for 7 or 8 years without anything much to show. He is one of the most popular BW actors right now..like him or not but it's true.
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Post by faneu on Dec 30, 2018 13:07:36 GMT -8
So those who couldn't connect with Zero are manipulated ... I am having a de javu all over again i remember reading the same things on this forum from certain members when Dilwale and HNY released. There are always some evil organizations in dark rooms somewhere in India trying to get SRK ... JHMS was the same from what I read. For many SRK fans it's everyone but SRK's fault when a movie fails and people are quick to trash the audience and critics. It's like some grand conspiracy going on against him lol. Now some may be harder towards him just because of his popularity and how iconic he is but if he was in consistently great movies they would be successful. Instead while he does give his best most of the time, the script lets him down but as an actor and even producer he needs to get smarter here and pick the right one's and not influence directors anymore (if it happens, some stuff in Zero does feel like that)
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Post by agantuk on Dec 30, 2018 13:24:32 GMT -8
40% up on Sunday from already good levels. The film has been accepted.
10 major hits in a row. 8 of them 100+ crore grossers. Not too bad for a "hack". Who was the last director to achieve this? Answer : no one.
Hats off to Rohit Shetty. Very easily the most underrated Hindi director in recent times.
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Post by faneu on Dec 30, 2018 13:32:53 GMT -8
40% up on Sunday from already good levels. The film has been accepted. 10 major hits in a row. 8 of them 100+ crore grossers. Not too bad for a "hack". Who was the last director to achieve this? Answer : no one. Hats off to Rohit Shetty. Very easily the most underrated Hindi director in recent times. Well he definitely understands what the audience wants but I'm still p***ed at him that he screwed up Dilwale (a sure blockbuster like CE if he tried harder) and overall his movies are very low effort and shallow imho, even for Masala movie standards. I still enjoyed some like Singham and CE to an extent
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Post by tina on Dec 30, 2018 14:53:17 GMT -8
I detest Rohit Shetty. He represents the worst of BW for me. The kind of BW everyone besides Indians makes fun of and gives a bad name to. Logic-defying stories, physics-defying action, lead actors saying nonsense dialogues, and women usually relegated to nothing. He had the audacity to claim Simmba was a "women's empowerment" film where rape is used as a plot device to turn a male idiot into a hero and women are shunted to the side. It's repulsive.
Luv Ranjan and Rohit Shetty are the worst of BW and frankly the audience deserves nothing better anyway. This is what they're cut out for.
Farah Khan also makes masala movies but they are 10000000x better.
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Post by faneu on Dec 30, 2018 18:41:39 GMT -8
I detest Rohit Shetty. He represents the worst of BW for me. The kind of BW everyone besides Indians makes fun of and gives a bad name to. Logic-defying stories, physics-defying action, lead actors saying nonsense dialogues, and women usually relegated to nothing. He had the audacity to claim Simmba was a "women's empowerment" film where rape is used as a plot device to turn a male idiot into a hero and women are shunted to the side. It's repulsive. Luv Ranjan and Rohit Shetty are the worst of BW and frankly the audience deserves nothing better anyway. This is what they're cut out for. Farah Khan also makes masala movies but they are 10000000x better. I think MHN and OSO are far better than any Rohit Shetty movie but honestly Farah seems to have lost it as well with her last two which were both rather lacking. Even CE was more enjoyable than HNY
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Post by agantuk on Dec 31, 2018 10:50:58 GMT -8
The film continues to trend well. Monday expected to be slightly higher than Friday. On an unrelated note, there are some gossip columns that Ranveer was the original choice for Zero till SRK came in, and he was out of the film.
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Post by faneu on Dec 31, 2018 10:54:05 GMT -8
The film continues to trend well. Monday expected to be slightly higher than Friday. On an unrelated note, there are some gossip columns that Ranveer was the original choice for Zero till SRK came in, and he was out of the film. Seems like it will be a clear superhit at the very least, huge success for Rohit shetty and Ranveer (who has had a great year)
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Post by mohan10 on Dec 31, 2018 11:21:06 GMT -8
On an unrelated note, there are some gossip columns that Ranveer was the original choice for Zero till SRK came in, and he was out of the film. It would have been a different film from what it ended to be, maybe more simple as ARL wont have all the technology tools, the whole Bollywood/Katrina sub story would have been avoided too.
In hindsight ARL is at his best when he is dealing with simple relatable stories, he went overboard with Zero and was totally out of his zone.
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Post by sateesh on Jan 2, 2019 8:34:57 GMT -8
Simbaa Sets ALL TIME RECORD On Tuesday Wednesday 02 January 2019 15.00 IST Box Office India Trade Network Simmba set an ALL TIME RECORD on Tuesday with the highest ever collections on a Tuesday for an outright Hindi film. Bahubali - The Conclusion is on top even with 10-12% of the Hindi market missing but that film was not from teh Hindi film industry. Also its going to take time for the records of that film to start getting beaten. Sanju earlier this year had collected 21.62 crore and Simmba has surpassed that by margin with 28 crore nett though it was a holiday for Simmba and not for Sanju but both films had enhanced ticket rates. The film beat the record of Kick which was the highest Tuesday for an outright Hindi film before Simbaa. In terms of GROSS numbers it will be behind Kick but still ahead of the likes of Dangal and Sanju. Below are the top fifteen first Tuesday collections of all time. 1. Bahubali 2 (Hindi) - 29.78 crore (Enhanced Ticket Rates) 2. Simmba - 27.93 crore (Holiday) 3. Kick - 26.82 crore (Holiday) 4. Dangal - 22.39 crore (Enhanced Ticket Rates) 5. Sanju - 21.62 crore apprx (Enhanced Ticket Rates) 6. Tiger Zinda Hai- 21.60 crore (Enhanced Ticket Rates) 7. Krrish 3 - 21.33 crore (Holiday) 8. Bajrangi Bhaijaan - 20.78 crore (Partial Holiday) 9. PK - 19.87 crore (Enhanced Ticket Rates) 10. Toilet Ek Prem Katha - 19.23 crore (Holiday) 11. Dhoom 3 - 18.75 crore (Enhanced Ticket Rates) 12. Airlift - 17.63 crore (Holiday) 13. Ek Tha Tiger - 14.87 crore (Partial Holiday) 14. Dabanng 2 - 14.21 crore (Holiday) 15. Padmaavat - 13.59 crore www.boxofficeindia.com/report-details.php?articleid=4591
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Post by mohan10 on Jan 2, 2019 8:51:08 GMT -8
saatesh the BO guru is back reporting
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Post by sateesh on Jan 4, 2019 9:33:53 GMT -8
Simmba Box Office Day 7: Sets New Record In Week One, Goes Past Padmaavat What makes the super success of Simmba is the fact that it has been set on a smaller scale when compared to Padmaavat with much lesser costs. By Joginder Tuteja - January 4, 2019 Simmba Box Office Day 7: It is now clearly taking the shape of a Blockbuster. With its rapid pace towards the 200 crore mark, the Rohit Shetty entertainer is turning to be a huger entertainer than what one would have anticipated. In its first week, the film has done a business of 151 crores* and that has ensured that a new personal record has been created for Ranveer Singh. His last release Padmaavat had brought in 150 crores in its first seven days (the film had seen a Thursday arrival) and now Simmba has managed to go past that. What makes the super success of Simmba is the fact that it has been set on a smaller scale when compared to Padmaavat with much lesser costs. Moreover, it was not even an event release and was promoted for just a month. This is not all as it was not even a holiday release whereas Padmaavat had this huge Republic Day weekend going in its favour. In its lifetime, Padmaavat had managed to go past the 300 crore mark. Simmba has now already covered half that distance and it is now a given that the film would go past 225 crores in a jiffy. However what has to be seen is how much further goes it go beyond that mark. The film’s superb success is now ensuring that January would continue to be strong with new releases Manikarnika, Cheat India and Thackeray only taking forward the footfalls. *Estimates. Final numbers awaited Note: All collections as per production and distribution sources Android & IOS users, download our mobile app for faster than ever Bollywood & Box Office updates! www.koimoi.com/box-office/simmba-box-office-day-7-sets-new-record-in-week-one-goes-past-padmaavat/
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Post by sateesh on Jan 4, 2019 9:35:53 GMT -8
Simmba Hits Huge Number Worldwide Friday 04 January 2019 16.30 IST Box Office India Trade Network Simmba did well very well in India but Overseas was also very good with over $8.5 million in the first week. The film hit a huge $3 million in US / Canada in the first week which was a standout. The mass markets like Pakistan and Nepal were also excellent with $650k and $400k respectively. The worldwide figure was 249 crore apprx which already makes it the fifth highest grossing film worldwide in just one week. Only Sanju, Padmaavat, Race 3 and 2.0 (Hindi) are ahead. Race 3 and 2.0 (Hindi) may well be crossed after the second weekends. 2.0 (Hindi) will be for sure. The business of Simmba in week one was as follows. India - 189 crore Overseas - 60 crore TOTAL - 249 crore The key will be the Thursday - Friday drop and if it can hold really well then this film can even go to 250 crore nett plus. www.boxofficeindia.com/report-details.php?articleid=4599
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Post by sateesh on Jan 4, 2019 13:41:51 GMT -8
Simmba Is A Blockbuster Saturday 05 January 2019 00.45 IST Box Office India Trade Network Simmba has emerged a BLOCKBUSTER and the third biggest HIT of 2018 as it has grossed a huge 9-9.50 crore nett apprx on Friday. The drop is just 20% from Thursday and now there is no stopping this film. Mumbai, Delhi / UP, Central India and East India are all excellent on the second Friday while South is not as good as the rest but still done good numbers. The two bigger HITS of 2018 are Sanju and Padmaavat which means Ranveer Singh has two of the three biggest BLOCKBUSTERS of 2018 while Ranbir Kapoor has the biggest. Its the first time that the Khans are nowhere to be seen among the top films since 1992 but one point to note is that the three biggest HITS are also from the three biggest directors (Rajkumar Hirani, Sanjay Leela Bhansali and Rohit Shetty) in the Hindi film industry today. The eight day total is around 160 crore nett and it will be third highest grosser of 2018 within ten days as it will gross the 186 crore nett of 2.0 (Hindi) before the second weekend is out. www.boxofficeindia.com/report-details.php?articleid=4600
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Post by faneu on Jan 4, 2019 16:18:48 GMT -8
Wow, really didn't expect this movie to be so huge. Shows that dumb masala movies can still be very successful
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